Let's start off today with keeping the Bowden family in your prayers. I know we lost a great man and coach Bobby Bowden today. Meant so many things that so many people. Meant a ton to me, and not only just when I coached with him, but when I was learning to be a coach and around him in a different time, with his family and what kind of person he was and who he was. It's amazing how he affected so many people, lived his life the way it was, like I said, as fine a gentleman and coach that’s ever walked the sideline in my opinion. Just a tremendous human being. But the lives he touched and the players he touched, that's his legacy and that's what he always talked about. The last time we talked we talked about that, he said those things, and he definitely did that. So he lived a full life and said he was ready, and he knows where he's definitely at, that's for sure. And also keep RC (Slocum) in our prayers as he continues to battle the things he has. Football is important, but there’s a lot of things bigger than that. Wish him and his family so much well-being for his future and safety.
How were you all able convince so many ‘bonus’ seniors to return to this defense that was already pretty good last year?
Well, I think they also saw the value in coming back for the team and what they accomplished. And I think a lot of guys accomplished so much, and what it felt like to win a championship or almost win a national championship, and liked that feeling. I think also the benefit of them at their next level. It's a double-edged sword that we have a great team, you were great players on it, they enjoyed that success in which we had, and how we had it, and the way we had it to get there. But then also, their personal development, to be able to play at the next level. I think it will enhance every one of those guys’ ability to make the NFL and play in the NFL and be a very significant draft pick and factor in it. And I think it's a combination of both. And I think they loved A&M.
I'm sure you have a bunch. But I wondered if you could share maybe a couple of your favorite memories or stories about coach Bowden.
Oh wow. You know, there’s so many. I can’t tell them all. I'm trying to think, my favorite one. My favorite one of me, I always think of this…when I was learning to be a coach I used to work the Bowden Academy. The amount of information that used to come out of him, that he didn't even realize he was exerting and how he did things. Not when I coached with him, not even when I was there. We’d do the Bowden Academy, which was the thing…they had that Manning Academy, now that was all bridged and thought of after the Bowden Academy, that's what started all that and gave the idea. As a matter of fact, Peyton was in the camp, he used to come, he came to the camp, and it was quarterbacks and receivers all over the country that came from everywhere. And that's all you did for three days was throw the football and run routes and catch the football. We used to sit there…some of my greatest memories was sitting there with him afterwards, like after the camp was over, because I was a counselor for the quarterbacks. And Tommy (Bowden) and Jeff (Bowden) did receivers, Terry (Bowden) did quarterbacks. They were all there and Bobby drove around, looked at everybody, watched everybody. He was there at every camp. Every second of every moment on the field, it was a family affair, and I was included in that, was very blessed to be in that. But at night when all the coaches would come and people would bring some old coaches, his old buddies sometimes that knew him from years ago, they’d stay, get a dorm room and you sit up in the dorm room, put your feet up, he'd take his socks off, put his feet up on the table…I mean he was so normal. He could make you feel like you knew him for 20 years in the first two minutes you ever talked to him. He was so genuine and honest. And just sitting there telling stories about ball. Coaches were asking questions, the things he would do and how he handled recruiting situations and how he handled this and that. And I was a young guy, you know, just 22-23 years old, sat there and just listened over and over and over and over and over. And then if he was outside by the pool…he and I had a bad habit. We both chewed, people didn't know that. We both chewed, we’d sit there and chew and spit. Everybody else would watch. But I mean, but he would talk to everybody. Just the knowledge he would put out and how he did things, the way he did things, stories about people back then, and back when he was learning to coach, how he admired Coach Bryant, how he admired the different people he grew up admiring in the day. And just listening to him, the volume of information you used to get.
That was my favorite memories of him. It really was not when I coached with him. That was phenomenal and we had some unbelievable talks. He was an unbelievable historian of the game and loved the game. Our memories of Samford together, because we both played there. It was Howard College back then. People forget that he went to Alabama on scholarship, and he left Alabama after a semester, and people didn't know the reason why. It was because he went back and married Ann. You couldn't be on scholarship at that time and be married, believe that or not, when they first got married. It was more important that he wanted to marry, and he moved back, and he went to Samford and how he gave that up. And I end up transferring to Samford, that was just ironic. We did we talk about different things, while you make decisions in life and coaching, and just listening to him it was just a volume of knowledge.
I remember I first became an offensive coordinator at Samford, that was going into the ‘91 season. Jeff was the OC. I was quarterback coach, and Jeff went to take the job at Southern Miss. So Terry made me the OC. And I wanted to learn. So that year (Florida State) were playing Penn State. I'll never forget him and joe Paterno were playing in the Blockbuster Bowl. Blockbuster Bowl back then was really good. They were both top 10 teams. They were great as a matter of fact, it was (Lawrence) Dawsey’s senior year. So I went and the family took me, put me in a hotel, kept me up and I stayed there the whole week with them and went to every meeting he did. I sat in the back of his coaching meetings, just watched him organize and structure. Then I did his offensive meetings and watched him set up his offense, how he called it, what he did when he watched film. I was just a fly on the wall, sitting in the back. And then I remember I went to the press box that night at the game and put the headset on and listened to him call the game. He and Joe Paterno were going at it that night, back and forth, back and forth. And Dawsey that year was a first team All-American. He always said this, the players make a difference in games, not plays. You gotta make sure you get it to certain guys. He’d have a certain list of guys that you have to get that ball to. Amp Lee was the MVP that night and played good. Casey Weldon was good. But Dawsey was a star, and they had to have plays, and I remember they had a little list of plays over handling of the ball. And he kept saying, ‘Mark, Mark’--Mark Richt, who was his quarterback coach at the time, Brad Scott I believe was the offense coordinator. ‘We gotta get that ball to Dawsey, we gotta get that ball to Dawsey’. And they pulled those plays out, man about five or six plays, about four or five of them went straight to Dawsey and he caught it, went straight down the field, won a big game.
And just those experiences, how vital that was to me at such a young age, I learned how to organize, how to structure, more importantly how to treat people, and then how to coach and call games and do things. And his style was different than a lot of different guys sometimes on offense in how he did it. I could go on like that. I could tell hours of those stories. I mean hours of them. He was just a tremendous man, a tremendous competitor. And like I say, the lives he affected and the people he affected, he didn't even know about. That’s the amazing thing about him.
What's impressed you the most of these first two days of camp?
Well, I don't know if anything's impressed me, but hopefully the urgency to be good. We've done some really good things, and some of the veteran guys are acting like veterans and the young guys I think are anxious to compete. I think the competition level and guys wanting to push each other for jobs is one of the main things that’s starting to push. And I hope that depth pushes that out there, the young talent with the older talent and those guys challenging for positions and playing time. And I think that's probably been the best thing so far.
At the start of every college football season you see in the top 10 the Alabamas, Clemsons, Ohio States. Are y’all on the threshold of being in that group? Or if not, how far away?
Well, we are right now. We're in the top 10. We'll see if we can do it. And like say, at A&M, that's our goal. That's why I'm here. That's why we're here and we should be. We have all the resources to do it and things to do it and the program to do it, the support to do it. And now it’s just making sure we do do it. That's the challenge. And you know, when you have the bullseye on your back and people expect you to be good, that's another step in maturity of how you prepare, how you play. And we definitely should be. That's our goal to be here and that's what we're here for.
I know it's only been two days, but one of the early impressions of Haynes and Zach battling out for that QB1 spot?
They’ve had good solid days, you know, we’ve split them up. One day, one had the ones, the other day, the other had the ones. So it’s been two days, but they’ve done a good job, they have good knowledge, you can see they worked hard in the summer, It's been two days in, so we'll watch that. This is an early day for Fan and Media Day, so it hasn't been a ton of practice. But I've been happy with both practices and there's been some little mistakes here and there that we’ll continue to clean up. It’s like that always. But you know, I've been pleased.
Can you give us uh, any kind of update on what's going on with McKinnley Jackson?
Yeah. We’re aware of the situation. We are following the policies of the school and as the situation pans out, then we'll be able to make our decisions based off the information we're given. That's it.
How good is Terry Price’s barbecue? Because it seems like it's such a big part of the pool party and things like that.
When you have a barbecue and the food's bad, it’s usually not a very good barbecue. So when the food is really good, it usually turns into a real good barbecue. He can cook, he really can. I told him I when I first met him, he had those awards, he had that hat with three or four different awards, places he'd won competitions. And I said, now listen, I don't know if you just sewed those on there or if they were legit, you know what I mean? We gotta do some research, but all you’ve got to do is taste his barbecue one time and they're legit. They were legit wins. He's really good. He's excellent. And a ton of work…the amount of work he puts in the cooking, wow, it's unbelievable.
Last couple of seasons, Buddy (Johnson) was one of the clear-cut leaders of that defense. How have you seen the leadership in that linebacking corps change of this offseason? And obviously Aaron Hansford is a guy with the most experience. So how have you seen him become more of a vocal leader?
Well he will be, and he has been, just by his performance. You don't have to be vocal…here's the thing. Everybody thinks leadership is vocal. Leadership comes in many ways. It’s how you affect your teammates. Is it vocal? Is it off the field? Is it on the field? Is it by example? You change behavior, you want people to play like you, you want people to play to your standards. So leadership comes in a lot of different ways. And Aaron has become more vocal, but his is more I think by example and how hard and the type of athlete he is and the way he plays. And he's doing a great job of that in leadership. Other guys on our defense are definitely leading too. So I think we're in a good position there.
With Kellen being here for the last few years, that's a luxury to have experience at that position. Now that you're going to have a new guy starting, how much enthusiasm are you seeing on that defensive side because they know they're going to have to really step up while these guys figure out how to run the offense?
I mean you say that, but then you don't put limitations on a new guy. I did that one year and won the national championship with a redshirt freshman. So I don't put limitations on him or I don't want to put limitations on a redshirt sophomore in Zach Calzada. I mean, both guys haven't played as much, but both guys are very talented. So, you know, either way with Zach or Haynes, either way. But I think the defense does understand the experience they have and what they have and the abilities they have. I don't think it's anything they do that they have to do anything different. They have to do their job, and they have to do it well, and have to as they mature into who they are and they get better at their craft of wanting to become a dominant group of guys no matter what. And I think our defense has that mentality and I think they can have that mentality. And they have that ability.
What does it say about Eli Stowers that he wants to run with the tight ends and get out there on the field any way he can?
Tremendous competitor, tremendous athlete. I mean, this guy is one of the best athletes on our football team. You're talking about a guy, a seven-foot high jumper. Is a sub-4.5 guy, probably vertical 42, 43 inches. You're talking about a guy who is unbelievably athletic, unbelievably creative, great ball skills and highly, highly, highly intelligent and instinctive. So I think he wants to make a contribution now and where that role is. And I think that's just a great tribute to him. And we still have packages and can do things with him at quarterback. Great young man.
You’ve still got to get the pads on, but what are your early impressions of just the body types in talent you have on the offensive line?
Love them. Size, athleticism, flexibility, strength, learning each and every day. The offensive line’s a challenge because everything's changing constantly with blitzes, movements, and they're getting better at that. But I like the guys that are there and then we’ve just got to continue to coach them, make them better. But I'm very happy with them…there's plenty of ability that's for sure.
With so many new faces on the offensive line, How have they looked as a unit so far?
Well, we're moving guys around, that's the thing. I'm not worried about how they look as a unit, I'm just thinking about trying to get guys that find the best position. We’re moving guys from left tackle to right tackle, right tackle to right guard, left guard to center. We're moving guys all around. But now when they're in there making calls and guys are making calls, the first group really understands. The second group is very talented with young guys and they're learning. But the first two days have been very pleasing.
DeMarvin Leal, his versatility. Does it remind you of anybody you've coached or gone against? And what's your expectations for him this year?
Well, I mean, I think I have very high expectations for him because he has high expectations for himself. He's a very unique talent and a guy that can be a mismatch guy, whether it's an inside or an outside guy. Not many guys his size have the athleticism to play the edge and can be that kind of factor. Everybody talks about pass rush, but you gotta play those quarterback runs, those pulls, those nakeds, those boots. I mean there’s a lot of pressure on defenses nowadays, by the way the offenses play across the country. And not many guys his size can do that, which he can. And then he has the size and versatility to go inside and create mismatches, whether it's on the run game or pass game. Leal’s not just a big body, but he's a very good athlete. I mean, if you hand him the ball as a tailback or a fullback or something like that, I mean he's a nimble guy, man. He's a really good, he's a skilled guy in a big body, and that's one of the reasons I think he's such a very successful football player. Because he plays hard. But man, he has that ability to play like a little guy in a big guy's body, which is rare. He's a mismatch guy like you have on offense and you move receivers around, backs, like Ainias does well. He's that kind of guy on defense and you can create matchups to rush the passer, or in the run game or the pass game. Some guys can do in the pass game but can't do in the run game. He can.
Now that it's official, your overall thoughts on Texas and Oklahoma entering the SEC and playing the Longhorns every year. Maybe starting as soon as next year.
Well, listen. I'm worried about us this year. We voted them in. Glad to have them. It's a great conference. I mean this is the best ball in the country, so we'll line up and play, and look forward to playing them.
Two fold on the receivers, we saw Demond Demas on the bike day one, an update on him?
Had a foot injury that he had this summer, legit. He's worked hard, had great grades, has been busting his tail. It's just taking time to get his sprained foot that he hurt running this summer just in a running drill. We're, you know, timetable each and every day by what goes on in the medical staff. I mean, he'll definitely be back, it’s just getting him back.
And then just that unit as a group, what can they improve on and be better at this point?
I think everything. I mean big plays, catches, no drops…as a receiving group listen, your whole goal is I want to not drop balls, don't have not missed assignments, I want to get open on every play. So those are the challenges, which is like on defense. I want to cover every guy. So just taking another step. When you’ve got young quarterbacks, taking that responsibility of doing my job and doing it well and consistently, where that guy doesn't have to worry about me, because a lot of young quarterback problems come from when people around you don't do their job. That's one of the things. You’ve got running backs, tight ends and receivers that all have tons of experience. So when those guys do their job, it makes a quarterback’s growth much easier when they're where they're supposed to be and I get through my progressions the right way and the read says, I'm going to get this guy, and I'm going to do that, and it's there. It's when guys don't do the right thing that those can be bigger problems for young quarterbacks. The receivers are very knowledgeable. They have good ability vertically. And I think we've got to continue to work down the field in places, which we do getting Chap and some of those guys back I think will help in that and the other guys developing, which I have already seen in the first two days. And I think that will make the quarterback transitions much, much easier in their development and gain their confidence. And once that confidence comes in, they can take off. The receivers are gonna have a big part in that, with the tight ends and the running backs, to what we're doing.
You spoke earlier about expecting to be ranked among the top teams in the country. But now you have to go and do it. If you had to name one thing of what it will take for you guys to take that next step?
To live in the standard. Not be worried about who we're playing, where we're playing. Worry about how we play and what we do, and that we meet our standard each and every day. Whether it’s the first game or the last game you play, they’re all the same, and every one of them is the most important game in the world. You play them one at a time. There are no ‘big’ games. Everybody says, well, that's a big game. Lose one game and see which game is a big game. I mean, they're all one win, one loss. So you have to approach it that way. And I think there's a mentality and an understanding that it’s that way no matter who your opponent is. It's a crazy statement. Your opponents become faceless. It matters what you do. It’s not a disrespect to them, but you can only control what you can control. And that's the standard in which you approach a game, how you prepare for a game, and how you perform in the game, and that's what you have to do. That's the standard in which we have to learn to do. And I think we're in the process of doing that.
Your roster is made up of Houston kids, can you talk about Isaiah Spiller and how much you’ll lean on him with the young quarterbacks you do have?
Oh you do. I mean you’ve got Spiller, you've got Achane, you've got all those guys that touch the ball. But Spiller, basically 2,000 yards in two years. Basically 1,000 last year in 10 games with other guys getting plenty of carries. So his productivity is ridiculous. He's become a complete back. He’s picking blocks up, he's learned to be even to be a better receiver, route runner, things he's developing there. He's a huge player and more importantly his leadership. There's another guy that all of a sudden a lot was put on him, and you ask a guy to lead when they're young and there's a lot put on them. They don't need to lead. They need to do their job, learn to be that guy and not put that extra pressure on him. Well now you can see that all right, I'm comfortable in my job. He's starting to really affect the other guys on the team. He had an unbelievable summer. His conditioning, he’s in shape, the way he worked, and hearing it from other players, our strength and conditioning coaches how much he’s really just grown. And just his maturity. You're in your third year in college, which now everybody’s leaving. Back then, back in the old days, that's when you first started playing. Now, everybody's leaving, if you really think about it. You wonder about kids’ maturity? No, we’ve just sped up the clock so much. He's a guy that I've been very, very happy with in everything he does. A great human being, but man what an impactful player. And he's gonna be huge for those quarterbacks, when you turn around and hand it off and make a lot of yards and take some pressure off, its big. And then also when you play action to him, it creates a lot of plays down the field.